Thursday, 1 December 2011

Noting Is Sacred, Everything Is Permitted

Might be a slightly misleading title, but bear with me and you'll get it. There's a comedian here called Jimmy Carr (boy I hope you know who he is) and he's gotten into trouble. Again. He's a very very dark comedian. Absolutely nothing is sacred to him, he's joked about disability, cancer, rape, you name it he's probably made a joke about it. This particular time he's been in trouble for making the joke "Why do they call them sunshine variety buses when all the kids look the fucking same?". I trust you it'd be funnier if he said it, he's deadpan, he can anything with a straight face, an he's a God of joke delivery.

I say this is again because a few years ago he was in trouble for making a joke about the soldiers coming back from the war maimed and missing limbs and how it means we're going to have a great paralympics team. Now, again, bad taste, BUT actual maimed soldiers in the audience were pissing themselves with laughter. They found it funny and other people found it offensive for them.

Jimmy has defended himself by saying that it's fine to take the mick out of disabled people because THEY ARE NORMAL TOO. This is the absolute truth. When it comes to comedy, nothing is sacred, and everything is permitted (See told you the title would make sense). At least, that's how it should work.

These jokes were made at live shows, not on TV, so it's not like our children were subjected to this. If you pay to go to a comedians show you know what you should expect. You don't go to a Jimmy Carr gig to see him make family friendly jokes, you know he's going to stab the line and kick it in its balls. A comedian should be allowed to say anything they want at a live show and on DVD's there is deleted content that a comedian or the DVD maker knows that the joke would be too bad, and I think comedians will usually make their routine safe for an audience.

I personally love Jimmy Carr, he's great at one liners, and has made a two word joke. "Dwarf shortage" (like I said, it's funnier when he says it). He made this after making a four word joke the tour before "Venison's dear, isn't it?" (dear means expensive just in case you didn't know, and Venison is Deer).

Nothing is sacred and everything is permitted, and if you are paying a lot of money to go to a comedy show, go see someone who you know you'll like. You go to Jimmy Carr to have your morals tested, and to be reaffirmed that he has no morals. People draw comparisons between Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle, but this just isn't fair, Jimmy Carr is a lot funnier, and doesn't just attack people all the time. If you like dark humour, and have few morals, I do recommend checking Jimmy Carr out.

40 comments:

  1. He's very good, king of the deadpan put down as well.

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  2. @The Angry Lurker He is, I love it when he gets a heckler. Like the guy he said "You know your mum warned me about you. She said to look out for you. At least I think that's what she said, she did have a cock in her mouth". Or something to that effect.

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  3. I love Jimmy Carr, I've seen him live a few times and I'm going to see him again next year! I like Frankie Boyle too but he is a lot more brutal - I saw him live once but the atmosphere was just too hostile to enjoy that much.

    People take offence too easily sometimes, though part of me thinks they pretend to be offended because they think that's how they should be feeling.

    Like Jimmy once said his favourite reaction from an audience is "a laugh, followed by an oooh" Because they laughed naturally then their morals kicked in lol!

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  4. I'm extremely beyond jealous of you. Can you take me with you? I've heard that about Frankie's gigs, the atmosphere is just way too hostile. That's one thing I love about Jimmy, he makes you question his morals. I love it as well when he told the audience off for that, he said they could either laugh or oooh, they couldn't do both. But it's true, he makes you laugh and then think "Should I really have laughed at that?"

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  5. Haven't heard of him I'm afraid but i love English comedy as it usually pushes boundaries. (now I am really hoping he is English lol)

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  6. @Mynx Yes he's English lol, and one of the few comedians who actually pushes boundaries.

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  7. I totally agree. He should be permitted to poke fun of anything and everyone. And likewise, people should be permitted to criticise him as much as they like. He's just testing freedom of speech. I like the statement that they "are normal people too". If disabled people are meant to be treated like normal people, they can have the piss taken out of them just like normal people.

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  8. @Experimental House A good point. I think he really does laugh in the face of criticism. He's definitely an advocate of free speech, and really will say pretty much anything.

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  9. I don't know him. I'll try to look up into him :D

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  10. @Mai He's a very funny man, but I wouldn't advise it if you are sensitive lol.

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  11. I don't know him but stand up comedian are very common in our country too and so far I didn't know anyone who got into trouble with their jokes yet. But there are a lot of TV comedians who got into trouble because of their bad jokes.

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  12. @Mayen there's a difference between a bad joke, and an offensive one. Unless by bad you meant offensive, but anyway, it's nice to see comedians being able to do what they want, and say what they want. Or I imagine it would be nice to see.

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  13. Vice ganda nga kung maka asar naku! sarap upakan..

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  14. @Tim Sorry I don't speak Filipino and Google Translate didn't translate the entire thing :(

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  15. I have a friend with a disabled cousin who was laughing one day because one of the other cousins had made a joke about the disabled. My friend felt bad about it later and he pointed out, he'd laughed and understood the joke. More importantly, he'd appreciated the joke because he recognized they weren't making fun of him. They were including him. His comment was, "It meant you accept me." This is something I intend to use someday in a story. I just haven't found the right moment yet.

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  16. I think I will check him out. I've never heard of him before your post.

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  17. Jimmy Carr is very funny. Some of my favorite stand-ups can get pretty dark. You should check out Anthony Jeselnik.

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  18. Comedians are good for the soul! I have never been to a live stand up before...I should go sometime!

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  19. Gotta admit I've bever heard of him. i'll have to check him out.

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  20. People shouldn't judge a joke because it's "a rude thing against X". They should ask X if they're okay with it!

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  21. He hosted a game show over here for a while I believe. I don't think Americans are willing, at least publicly, to appreciate his humor.

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  22. I have found that most people are okay with jokes like his, but the people who arn't are not the people being talked of but of rich boring white people who react instead of thinking. Its as if they were trained to be offended by anything that picks on manorities and to hate it cause of that! Crazy hipocrates!

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  23. Never heard of him, but he sounds like my kind of guy. If your jokes don't piss at least Somebody off, you're not funny.

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  24. And that's why I love the internet and prefer webcomics in general. Things online don't need to censor themselves and they can be more open. You don't like the site? They don't care, go somewhere else.

    And the site doesn't get shut down just because some stupid soccermom gets mad, half the time they end of mocking the dumb woman.

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  25. @Victoria Dixon Well you just found a reason to now :) I'm glad he felt that way, and I wouldn't mind using that story myself some day.

    @Astra He's pretty funny, but like I said, leave your morals behind.

    @Film Geek Bastard I love dark humour, so I'll have to check them out. I have no real morals when it comes to comedy and will laugh at pretty much anything.

    @Danjor21 I haven't either but I know I would absolutely love to. Jimmy is one guy I would consider. My sister has been to one or two and I'm very jealous of her lol.

    @Copyboy it'll be worth it.

    @Fang Preach it brother! It's damn true.

    @George He's hosted two to my knowledge. Distraction which doesn't go anymore, and 8 out of 10 Cats, which is pretty good. I think American's aren't as willing to let go of their morals as we are.

    @Bersercules That's pretty damn true. He does love getting an audience to laugh and then think if they should have laughed. Don't be offended for someone else, and just because someone offends you, that doesn't make it offensive.

    @ABFTS That's one problem I have with comedy these days. Every comedian is way too nice, this guy is not nice. He even said to a girls dad he'd finger her backstage because it was her 16th birthday. That takes balls.

    @My 2 Pesos Have fun lol.

    @DWei I love it when people who complain are ridiculed. It makes me smile. Some webcomics are more willing to push the boundaries and not care, Cyanide and Happiness is a good example, but some have to be nice to keep the sponsors happy :(

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  26. i love that guy, he is so funny. and people need to calm down, it's just words, and it's just a JOKE.

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  27. Yes, Jimmy Carr is fucking funny as shit. Also, people are retarded. So there's that.
    Your title made me think of a song:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4oQECb6Viw

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  28. @Interwebs Fails He really is.

    @Kage He really is funny, and that's true. It's just a joke people, it's not like he's serious. Well he might be.

    @Generally Disgruntled I don't know why I'm enjoying this song so much. Jimmy Carr is amazing, but the retardation of people is a serious blow to him.

    @Jodie-Ann He's fun if you have no morals.

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  29. Yep, getting offended for someone else is the worst act of self-righteousness.

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  30. The retardation of people is a serious blow to anyone who is of moderate or higher intelligence

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  31. @Henry It is, and I've never really thought of it like that. Well not totally anyway.

    @Generally Disgruntled I can kind of live with them, as long as they don't get in my way.

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  32. I'll have to check him out, I'm typically a fan of dark humor :)

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  33. comedy is boundless. Humor can be found in any situation. props to this guy for going where others fear to go. Besides, us assholes need to stick together.

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  34. I suppose I'll check it out.

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  35. That doesn't seem offensive to me.

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  36. Well, time to get onto YouTube to find this God of Joke delivery. If you find it offensive just go, there are plenty of OTHER places for stand up comedy or what-have-you.

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  37. @Heaven If you love dark humour you're sure to love him.

    @MRantrhope It's a tough world for a lonely asshole, always some dick trying to screw us. Comedy is boundless, but some people just don't let it be.

    @Cary It'll be worth it.

    @Shaw if I'd gone into a little background it might have been lol.

    @R.gers Have fun. It's true, there are plenty of other comedians more suited to your taste, no need to be a dick.

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