Friday, 28 October 2011

Lil' Baby Hitler

I want to make two things clear here first before I really get into this. ONE: I'm not talking about THAT Hitler, and two, I'm not a racist.


Really I'm not.


Okay now let's get on with the post.


There is a couple in America who named two of their children Adolf Hitler Campbell and JoyceLynn Aryan Nation. Yes they named their kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation. It's not the smartest of moves sure, but they have had their kids taken away from them. More than likely because of the names. I'm going by a Fox News story here, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm entirely wrong, I don't like Fox News or anything they stand for, and they get it wrong (or just bend the truth) a lot themselves. 


It seems that some time last year there was apparently cause to suspect abuse or neglect, which would be a good reason to take their kids away. After this happened they picketed the child support offices, and an appeals judge has supposedly told them that there was no evidence of neglect, and that it was all because of the names, so now the parents are pissed off that their kids have been taken from them, and it really is just because they named them how they did. A judge will decide by December whether or not the kids come home.


This all started when they went to get lil' Adolf a birthday cake, and the person at the cake shop refused to write the kids name on the cake, and then reported them to child services. 



"It's not like he's growing up to be a killer or nothing like that," Deborah Campbell said.

"I went to just to get a cake... it was a circus of racism," Heath Campbell added.


At the time both parents acknowledge the hate behind their children's names. But say that was not their intention.

"This is America, they say it's free, you have the right to name your child whatever you want to name your child, no matter what," Heath Campbell said

That's directly from the article itself, which you can find at http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/baby-hitler-parents-lose-custody-kids-even-though-judge-says-no-abuse/


Okay now on to some thoughts. Fair enough, it was quite a silly thing to name your kids, but does that really count as abuse? I mean, think of some of the absolutely moronic things celebrities have named their kids. Can we not take them away? I would rather be called Adolf Hitler than some of those crazy things.


I also can't help but feel this might be a slightly racial (and possibly semantic) issue. I wonder if there would be such a problem if a black couple named their kids Black Pride. Or if a homosexual named their child (yes it's possible) Rainbow Sparkle. I just think that you should be allowed to name your children whatever the hell you want, if they really don't like it they can just change it when they're older. Or even when they're younger. If they truly feel it was a mistake to name the children like this, then say to the parents "Look, we'll give you them back, if you change their names. Deal?". Don't be breaking up a possibly loving family.


I'm out before I come across as more of a monster than I feel I have.


One last point of total whorism, you might have noticed a google search bar to your right. Please feel free to use it, I'm told the search results open up in this window right here. I'm also sorry for how bad it looks, I might play around with it more but it seems that was the only place I could put it without making the place look even worse.

50 comments:

  1. couldn't agree with you more =))

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  2. @Mai Yang Thanks, it gives me hope others might too :)

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  3. I think you can make the Google search bar shorter by lowering the number of characters.

    On topic, to be honest just because you CAN doesn't mean you should. I mean people got rather offended when I went out as Hipster Hitler last year, funny I have to admit, yet lots of hostile looks.

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  4. @R.gers Yeah I'll probably have a play around with it and try that later. Cheers for the tip. No one will probably say just because you can doesn't mean you should more than me, but I think it's pretty hilarious to dress as Hipster Hitler. Like I said, fair enough, it was quite stupid of them, but you should only take their kids away if there was a sign of neglect, and if you count names as a sign of neglect, what about all those ridiculous names other people call their kids?

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  5. Absolutely but the kids will suffer in the long run with those names, free speech and will it won't matter.

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  6. @The Angry Lurker That is true, but the same can be said of many kids, and if that is the case, just change their names. Though now that their parents names and everything are known, they'll just be the kids who "Used to be called Hitler and Aryan Nation"

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  7. That is one looooooooooong search box:D

    And while I agree that parents should be allowed to name their kids whatever the eff they want, Hitler and Aryan Nation?! Like, seriously?

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  8. @PeeVee I might be overcompensating for something >_> I laughed that people would actually name their kids something like that too, but still, don't separate a family because of a kids name.

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  9. What a child's name is, is no cause to take the child away. But then again, what kind of parents name their children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation?

    It seems both paties are wrong here. And 2 wrongs don't make it right!

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  10. @Indeed :) If they were piling him full of hate speech, and they were white supremacists, I'd be able to try to understand, but it sounds like they weren't.

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  11. I don't find it that bad or offensive to name your kids like this.
    I don't know, what they were thinking however. If it's like an attempt at a practical joke, or if they actually support Hitler's ideas and stuff. Both are okay with me.. after all you should be able to think and say whatever you want, but most people are sheep, so these names and what they represent will automatically make them thing certain way about the person with that name. The parents had to know that it will have such an effect.
    So I'd say, that the parents are either too stupid to raise their kids or too cruel. Because of this I'm not sure, if it's a good idea to let them keep the kids. I'd have to know more info, that is not filtered through mainstream media, which will of course bash the parents, without trying to give an objective, unbiased report on this.

    Btw welcome to the Cool Kids Club. :D
    I noticed, that the picture is a bit too big though, so I made two smaller versions. If you want to grab one of those instead, you can find them in my last updated post.

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  12. @Bob The picture is kinda big yeah lol, I had to further extend the size of the blog to accommodate :P I'll check out the smaller size ones. If you're going to take their kids away because they are clearly too stupid to raise them, there are a lot of other people who fit into that category. A LOT. Say outright that that is the cause too. There are a lot of kids called Jesus but I doubt any of them are the second coming, I doubt a kid called Hitler is going to start looking for some jews. Fox seemed to be being nice to them actually, pointing out that it's more than likely because of the names, but they don't outright say that you shouldn't split up a family, so they're being more neutral about it. A first for faux news.

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  13. Mark: Well my view on this is, that no couple, that is too stupid or otherwise unfit should be allowed to raise kids. There should be some types of tests in place, that potential parents would have to undergo, before they would be allowed to raise any kids. Of course it wouldn't be too strict, but it should eliminate at least the potentially voilent, stupid,... etc. couples.

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  14. But yeah, of course it's unrealistic to want to take away already born kids from all unfit parents.

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  15. @Bob if you did that human population would end up in decline because more people were dying than were being born lol. At least let's educate the folks in how to be better parents. I think if your kids get taken away you can do something like this, but let's open it up to cases that haven't quite gone that far.

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  16. Heath Campbell? Heath? COOL NAME DUDE.

    Honestly, though, this is a two-sided thing for a lot of people.
    It's just a name, chill out. (Though adding the surname Hitler takes it a wee bit too far.)
    But it's, historically speaking, a pretty recent happening, and there's still people around clearly remembering those times. Kind of rude towards those people, and idiotic move to your kids for when they get taught history.

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  17. @Fang I wouldn't worry too much about that, most kids think that Hitler coached the German football team. I don't think it's all that offensive but I'm not a jew who was around in those times. I guess some people might have found it a bit offensive, and it was an idiotic move. Just change the name and let the family go on. If there is abuse in the family though, then break down the door with your desert eagles and candy mechas, and flip the fuck out. I don't think calling them those names should count as abuse. Calling a kid Dick McSlut probably would count.

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  18. I think giving your kids stupid names is abusive. They'll probably get teased for their name in school and may have adults mock their name or even take out their frustrations on the kid for being "weird".
    In this day and age where people are so often made to fit in to a group; making a kid so different by giving them a silly name is mean.
    Also people often give odd names to their kids cause they want them to be different (because the parent didn't feel unique as a child and wants their child to be unique) but kids often don't wanna be unique and stick out they wanna blend in and learn how the world works then stand out. So a crazy name will screw that up for them!
    My dad has a standard name: Mike and he gave me a not often used name: Caleb so I wouldn't have to put up with going to school with ten to twenty people with the same name. But my name isn't so weird or unusual. In a school of a thousand kids I was one of three Calebs. It was great!

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  19. Think of all the shit these kids would go through because of their names. The parents are actually setting them up to be at risk of some violent things happening to them. How is it not abuse? Regardless of how the parents treat them otherwise.

    So yes, taking the kids away might be a bit extreme, especially without a more thorough investigation, but then again, I can think of a parent of a friend who could easily be called abusive but will probably never get in trouble for it, because he dances around the boundary of legality.

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  20. @Orang3 Thanks

    @I fucking LOVE the name Caleb. If we were gay and married I'd be taking your first name not your second. It can put your kids into incredibly shitty situations sure, but then fix it by changing the kids name, not by separating them from their parents, which will probably screw with them more. I have an incredibly common name, it was other parts of me that were sticking out and attracting the shit givers attentions lol.

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  21. @Lot's Wife I for one wouldn't name my kids something as stupid as this. If the parents themselves aren't committing the violence, or exposing them to violence (domestic abuse was the "reason" they were officially taken away in the first place, then I just don't see it as all that abusive. And like I said, if it is, then there are people with similar names who should have their kids taken off them too. A name is just a name, it can be changed easy enough. Lil' Adolf is three now, there's still a chance to change his name, and then all the kids he'll meet at school (and probably himself) won't remember that he was ever called Hitler. Problem solved. As for dancing round legality regarding abuse, I've been in a situation like that myself, it's not really a good one.

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  22. This is pretty messed up for the kids. That is the thing about the law right? Rights and rules are never black & white. There's always a shade of gray.

    On a side note, have you seen the Hitler parodies online? The funniest was the NBA Lakers Championship one.

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  23. @ipenka I've not seen many Hitler parodies besides Hipster Hitler and that was only discovered today. It is messed up for the kids, and I think that's something people just haven't considered. They've considered how these names could mess them up, but not how separating them from their folks could.

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  24. @My 2 Pesos Rednecks are a good source of fun.

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  25. At least he wasn't named Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116.

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  26. Those kids are going to be mocked and teased until their names are changed.

    Seriously though, those parents are idiots. Yes you are free to do whatever you want but that doesn't mean sticking your hand in a toaster oven is a good idea.

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  27. As a girl with a weird name, I think those parents are complete idiots.

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  28. @Interwebs Fails That's a good name,

    @DWei It isn't? I need to change my plans for tomorrow then. If changing the names will solve everything (which it probably will) then just do that really.

    @Heaven They are, but stupidity is yet to be a crime.

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  29. We talked about something similar in Civics today, whether or not "Mein Kampf" should be banned. I was like, lol no because we can't just go banning everything we find offensive and also, there is a difference between promoting Hitler's ideology to neonazis and allowing physical copies to exist.

    However, since this involves a human being? Sure we should be allowed to name our children whatever we want, but being named Adolf Hitler is downright dangerous. Just imagine the societal reaction. And how would you feel knowing your parents had named you after one of the most evil men in history?

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  30. @The Rambler I'm with you that we should never ban a book. If anything Mein Kampf would help us to understand why Hitler did what he did, allowing us to actually prevent it, but people don't think like that. I wouldn't be to happy to learn that my folks named me after one of the most evil men in history, but that's what changing your name is for :) The kid should expect a very bad reaction from society though, especially if he grows up to resemble Hitler too.

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  31. What's with all these info links?

    I think it is up to the parents to name their children what they want. It's probably going to seriously damage their lives down the road but it doesn't quite constitute child abuse. This is a free country and that freedom is measured not by how much we can do something the majority approves but how much we can do that they disapprove.

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  32. Mark: It might end up in decline, but we would also end up with healtier population, which is a good trade-off.

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  33. Hmmm.
    I know a couple of people who have given their kids what some others think are pretty stupid names. If only because they will have to go to school - where kids are cruel - with those names.

    It's hard to be objective, because the names stand for things that represent race hate, but just that alone is not really cause to remove kids from their homes. If you do, then really you are removing them because of their parents beliefs.
    I hate everything that those names signify.
    But - in a western world that's becoming anti - moslem what is next ? Will moslem children be removed if their parents call them Osama or Saddam ?

    The best punishment for the parents will be if their son grows up to be gay and their daughter marries a black man.
    Here's hoping...

    ps this post also made me chuckle, when you read my latest you'll see why. Seems we were thinking along the same lines.

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  34. @Henry Just don't put your mouse on the post and you should be fine. Some things happened which made me think that I needed alternate advertising, that's how the infolinks came about. Anyway, I think that is a very good way to put it, it's not how much you can do something others approve of, but how much you can do something they don't approve of.

    @Bob humanity slowly dying out isn't really that good a trade off. Our instincts wouldn't allow us to do it. Although maybe when all the stupid people die, the population might start increasing again.

    @Dirtycowgirl Well they say that the names don't represent anything about them. If it was a neonazi skin head family then sure, take the little bastards away if you think they are going to grow up surrounded by hate speech. I'm just glad that as well as being a very common name, there is no meaning to my name. It's just a random name my parents picked, that's a kinda funny story too. Off to check blog updates now, while I should be sleeping.

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  35. @Mark I agree with you on the fact they shouldn't seperate the kids from the parents. I think I heard of this story and didn't they want a swastica on their cake too?

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  36. I think that it's just in bad taste. Course it's not illegal, but talking about Hitler is such a taboo that maybe, maybe they could have named their kids something else? Stupidity isn't illegal, though, so they have no cause to be arrested.

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  37. I have trouble feeling sorry for someone who names their child after someone who committed genocide

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  38. You have the right to ruin your child's life with an evil name before they even had a chance to be their own person and people have the right to refuse you cake.

    Idiots...

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  39. Lol. I hate fox news too their like pretentious hippies and people need to be more open minded about names. It was just names why would they want to burden a new soul into something that they don't even have an idea who they were.

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  40. I heard some pretty stupid baby names in my time, think on was "tula does the hula from hawaii" and another "bus stop number 7" named after his place of conception.

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  41. @Bersercules If they wanted a Swastika too, even I would be wary of them. But I also consider it a shame that Swastika is ruined thanks to Nazi's as well. I think it's a symbol from Buddhism or something, but it's become incredibly taboo now.

    @Cricketfreak Stupidity is indeed yet to be illegal. I wonder how our entertainment world will survive when it is made illegal. Pretty bad taste yes, but like I've said about 10 times here, and I'll probably say it again lol, just change the names. Even if they are put into foster care, they keep these names.

    @Aamedor Well I think you should judge them based on the reasons they wanted to name them that. If it was a white supremacy and racism issue, then I would agree.

    @Cary Both true, but I would rather see them abolish the right to refuse to serve cake than abolish the right to name your kids what you want.

    @Dilord Fox News has really earned it's nickname Faux News. It was just a name, something that can be easily changed.

    @JDC See, take kids like that away from their parents if you're going to take kids like these away too.

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  42. I heard about this. XD I was amused at the cake part when my friend told me about it XD

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  43. @Jodie-Ann I just hope the kid did eventually get some cake lol.

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  44. my friend had a dog named adolf. no one would play with him at the doggy park, either :(

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  45. @Kage Awwww but Adolf on it's own is just fine. There are plenty of Adolfs. Plus it was just a doggy :(

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  46. Actually the kids i mentioned i think they made a law suit against their parents. might just be a story though, names were definitely true however.

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  47. I feel like they named their kids those names just to push the boundaries and express their "rights". Though that being said, it's not abuse and they shouldn't have been taken away from them.

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  48. @JDC I think I've heard a story like that too where kids sued their parents over their names. So it could be true.

    @If we don't push boundaries we don't know how far we can go :) I'll say again and again though they shouldn't have lost their kids. This could be solved by just changing the names.

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