Friday, 9 September 2011

Take One, Or Thirty, For The Team

I was over at a blog called Gaming Class Hero (Bob can now expect 2 extra visitors, because I'm awesome) and there was a post recently about why Bob doesn't like team based online multiplayer games, like DOTA and Team Fortress 2 much, because his success relies on the success of people who aren't so...well, good. I ended up leaving a pretty long comment about my own levels of suck at things like that, and at the end, I said "this comment is so long I could probably turn it into a blog post". But I already had some ready to go out, which explains the long amount of time inbetween then and now. Those weren't my exact words, but the context still stands. So, here I am, making a post about the evils of multiplayer games.


First off, my comment in it's entirety


"I've played some TF2 recently, and it's been made quite clear that I suck majorly at it. Not by anyone though, but by the fact I KEEP DYING. I'm man enough to admit that it's my fault, and I let the damn team down though. I mostly prefer single player games because, well, I mostly played games because I didn't have people to play with. Even though the xbox 360 is back in my room now, I doubt I'm going to get a live account, I can do without some 10 year old kid I don't know calling me a newb faggot. I can understand wanting to drop people that suck, and I saw it a lot in PVP on WoW. I can defend the newbs, and say "Hey you were newbs too once" but I was still massively bad at 2vs2 arena. Fairy nuff, part of the reason I sucked at it was because I didn't get to do enough of it, but it was also my responsibility to learn to be better at it. Maybe play more battlegrounds and learn to take care of myself better. I did that sometimes, and I wasn't half bad at full blown PVP, but I had a team behind me, and those were rare. People on WoW often don't play PVP if they're in the alliance, and if they do, most of them just bitch about how they never win because Ally is where all the 12 year old newbs who can't even play are.

Damn that was a long comment, I could probably turn it into a post on my own blog lol."



Team Fortress 2 isn't the only game I play like this, there's also Battlefield Heroes, which is pretty cool actually, and I'm not too bad at that. Games like this can be good if you get a right team, and there are people who like to play them for the camaraderie, and because they know even if they suck, then maybe someone who's really good can pick them up. The problem is though that not a lot of people who are really good like having to pick people up. They like to toughen them up. Most of the people who suck can't really handle this, or don't appreciate it. Either way they possibly stop, meaning that the good/bad player ratio is more even lol. 


I do suck quite a bit at TF2, but I'm still learning, just like I learnt to play Battlefield Heroes, and just like I learnt to play every other game I play. But I'm also slow to try games like this in the first place. Part of me wants to give LoL a go, but I know I'm going to suck, let people down, and feel like a sack of shit over it.


So this is the intended message of this post (There was one? I'm as shocked as you are. Really) If you're good at these games, kudos, just please, try to be a bit more patient with the people who aren't. Offer them advice instead of just calling them a noob failure. "LRN2PLAY DUMBASS" isn't the excellent advice people seem to think it is. On the other hand, people who fail, people like me, do some actual learning how to play, or at least try and improve. When you get killed in five seconds, ask yourself why you got killed. Was it because you stood infront of the guy with a flamethrower? Was it because you left the main group and were savagely destroyed by THEIR main group?


Don't do that shit, it ain't healthy. TF2 is cool for things like this, because it has offline play with AI opponents. Fair enough, AI behaves a lot differently than humans, I learnt that a long time ago, but it's still handy for learning how to play. Plus the game gives you tips while you load, such as a pyro in TF2 is great for outing spies because their flame thrower will burn them, but not your actual allies. If you're a pyro in TF2, and someone's acting suspicious, TOAST HIM! If it's a spy, awesome, if it's a team-mate, no harm done.


And of course, respect your healers! I was never a healer myself though. But I did try to respect them, and now to translate it for the TF2 players...


Respect the medic!


and of course, keep an eye out for spies.


Can someone do me a huge favour and reddit this? I think it belongs in the gaming reddit lol. Reddit still won't let me submit links, and I still don't want to create another account. Thanks to Neon sending my last posts to their atheists, traffic went through the roof :) 

30 comments:

  1. Try out League Of Legends ;)

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  2. long comment indeed!
    longer than a quick post. lol ^_^

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  3. @Reilly League is one I wouldn't mind trying out, but like I explained here, I'd suck at it :P

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  4. I read this post and I'm utterly confused.

    Computer games are baffling.

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  5. @Lemons Don't Make Lemonade Basically there are people who are bad a lot at online games, and people who are good a lot, and I want the people who are bad to try to get better, and the people who are good, to be more patient an understanding. I really could have just turned this post into that lol.

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  6. But that's the fun about TF2! You have to play it with your friends and together, you have to complain about how badly your team suckks! :P

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  7. I agree the learning curve on a lot of these games is such that you have to put up with a lot of "you suck newb" before you get decent. I took about 5 games of CoD2 for me to realize that getting head-shot every time I spawned wasn't fun and I went on to something else.

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  8. I don't game all that often, but if I do, it's mostly singleplayer. the occasional 1v1 multiplayer, but that's it.

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  9. @FangThose games are good for you ^^

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  10. @aamedor It took about 0 games of CoD to realise that getting headshotted when being spawned was no fun and I never tried it :P

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  11. I don't really think I'm that awesome at these games because I rarely play them anymore, but when I do I usually don't rank at the total bottom. When some newb ruins my game I get usually pissed, but don't write anything, unless it's as blatant as I wrote in my post -
    5 snipers or 3 agi carries or other similarly rage inducing stupidity. Someone who picks a sniper, when there are already 3 or more in the game is a total retard in my book, so I don't have too much of a problem calling him that.
    Of course if someone tries to play the game "correctly" and still fails, I won't really insult him or anything.
    All I really want is that people will at least use their brain and don't act like a mindless zombies.

    I think that LoL actually has some ranking system, where if you're a newbie, you get matched with other newbies, so you shouldn't be afraid to try that one. Maybe I'm wrong about this though.. I don't play LoL.

    I reddited your post..
    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ka1r3/take_one_or_thirty_for_the_team_thoughts_about/

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  12. And thanks for those 2 new visitors. :P

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  13. @Bob lol it's not showing up that someone reddited but thanks :) I'm sure Neon will probably do it, he is the master of Reddit. I'm considering deleting and remaking my account but bahhhh I don't know if I want to go through that trouble. The sad thing is it can be a good source of traffic. Anyway, a system where you get matched with players of about the same skill is a good one, I think there are games that try to have that, but something goes wrong. If you keep an eye on the score in games like TF2, you'll notice there's a big difference between the guys at the top, and the guys at the bottom. I think that mixing guys that have shown they can play well, with guys that need a bit of help with it, can go well. As long as people don't end up foaming at the mouth anyway. It would be nice if people used their brains more in games, but the same can be said about any subject lol. Those two new visitors are more than I'm going to get from having a link on your blog :P kidding, kidding, one extra visitor is a nice thing.

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  14. I have to admit. On league of legends. They drag you down because team plays often requires communication. But ended up with a team mate that doesn't speak English or just plain trolling. They often do different builds which are really suitable for coop vs AI. and not in a ranked or normal game mode. Sometimes I lose hope on humanity whenever I get these kinds of game that "I should have win this if not for these meddling kids". I admit that I sometimes throw my keyboard rampantly whenever I get one of those douches who loves to ruin everyone's game.

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  15. TF2 is a great game and everyone sucks at it initially. Eventually you find a class that you can do decently with, you get better, you experiment with the new items, additional items encourage you to play the other classes, etc. etc..

    And one day you will realize you're so good that you can carry your team on your back and bring them to victory. And on that day, you feel like a god.

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  16. Everyone dies in the first few seconds of TF2 when they first start out. Even the people that are good at the game have short life spans. That's just how the game works.

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  17. @ShawI think the longest lifespan I've had on a game of TF2 was a minute and a half and that only got so high cos it included the set up phase at the start lol.

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  18. @Dilord That's a disadvantage of a laptop, no keyboard throwing RAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE goodness. that is also another downside to things like this, it requires really good communication, and not everyone is willing to communicate, and even less are willing to let someone who actually knows what they're doing take charge.

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  19. I'm really bad at online games. :/

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  20. i have to try TF2, ive never played it

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  21. I enjoy some computer games, but mainly just simple tower defense flash games.

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  22. When people mock noobs its more like there just getting there own frunstrations with live out of the way.

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  23. Yeah, i remember when I still played wow, during BC. We always won battlegrounds as the Horde. Because all the nubs went Alliance. Still do, I'm told.

    The thing is, under the veil of anonymity, people are complete jackasses. When you don't know who someone is, the general consensus is to fuck with them. Online games, 4chan, even Reddit sometimes, always the bastion of human civility.

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  24. @Generally Disgruntled I got in just at the end of BC, start of WoTLK and left about 2/3rds of the way through Cata. I'm not going to deny either of those things, both that newbs are on the alliance still, and that internet + anonyminity = DICKERY! I've done it myself too many times to attempt to deny it.

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  25. It is kinda like hazing. You're just new so they insult you and treat you bad, but after you master the game, it will be you who will be insulting others. Then the cruel cycle will repeat itself again and again.

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  26. I never liked TF, and i didnt play TF2. I like to play hearts, and where in the world is carmen san diego though. And the old as shit command and conquer red alert.

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  27. I've never played TF but Dota is awesome. this game is very popular in asian countries like Vietnam or China. If you visit any internet cafe in my country, you will see they play Dota everyday.

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  28. Honestly, I love Multiplayer online games. I do notice that there are some guys who can't provide support of any kind, and there are some who are so good: it makes your many actions and contributions to the team seem like nothing at all.
    However, at the end of the day it's just another game. Play as hard as you can, and even if you are a noob: fight as hard as you can.

    One of my favorited games: Battlefield Bad Company 2.

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  29. @Majin_Curse Ahhh I loved Battlefield Bad Company. I never played it online though, I've never had xbawx live, and the only reason I had it for a month with my 360 is because I got a month free lol.

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