Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Rabid Fans And The Rabid Non-Fans They Do Mortal Combat With

You want proof that I love you guys? Yesterday, after my internet died for about 2 days, I spent over four hours reading well over 50 posts to catch up on the blogs I follow. (It was actually from my dinner to when I had my tea, too). That's how much I love you guys. My brain is dead. I got some good ideas for blog posts myself while I was doing it, but because I was taking in so much information, I also forgot all of them -_- (It also destroyed my newly recreated internets) Except this one, which is about fans. There's not much worse than a person who belittles things they don't like and instantly calls it bad, but one thing that IS worse, is the people that talk about how much you suck because you don't like what they like. I'll be looking at both sides of the coin in this post, or at least, trying to. Also a quick note to Dirty Cowgirl, I will make your story, but I don't know how long it's going to be, so I don't know how long it's going to take, but I suppose if I make it long enough I can post it in parts and turn it into many posts. I'm also thinking about doing me one of those 30 day challenges or what not, but I don't know which one to do. I tried to find out about them but got nothing. But I do know a photo challenge is out of the question. Jebus fornicating Christ this has been about as long as a post and I haven't even got started yet. Last note, no I've not stopped the writing challenge, it is just that my brain is totally dead, I'm lucky to be able to write this;

Okay, so on one side of things, you have people who just hate everything and start with anyone who likes it. One example of this would be the people who hate Justine Beaver (yes I'm one of those people, and no, I will not refrain from calling her a girl who can't sing, and yes, I'm a hypocrite, I will be proving this many many times). Now, there are people who take this too far. I'm talking about the people who will find her videos on Youtube, downrate them as much as possible, and leave hateful comments. They're quite fun to read sometimes though, when they aren't written by people who are clearly younger than Bieber's fans (12 year old girls). Way to prove your vast, vast intelligence. By completely proving you have no intelligence at all. If you don't like the music, fair enough, don't watch it. Why waste the effort needed to even load up the video, thus getting it more hits and making it slightly more well known. Now people think that more people like this stuff than actually does. Yes that sentence makes no sense. Frankly I'd rather just put on some music I do like than find something I don't just to hate on it. Another example is...God it hurts just to type this...Friday, by Rebecca Black. Thanks to everyone going on that video and making it "The most hated song ever" (These people have clearly never heard anything by Prussian Blue) you made it the most popular song ever. If you hadn't gone through so much effort, then no one would have noticed it, no one would have cared, and she wouldn't assume that people like her and go and make more...no I won't call that music. Alice Cooper, what I'm listening to while writing, now that I would call music. It's not just music one finds this though, there are people who hate books, usually without having read them. A big example of this is Twilight. Everyone bashes it for being poorly written and several other things I can't say without getting torn to pieces by Twilight fans. Which brings me onto the other side of the spectrum;

The fans who hate people for not liking what they like. I'm sorry Twifans but Twilight is by far the biggest example of this I can think of. Before you all start hating and unfollowing me, I HAVE READ IT ALL. Hell, part of me wants to re-read it just to remember why I don't like it. But this isn't about Twilight and I won't be making it so. Sorry Picard (300 Nerd Points to whoever gets the reference). This is about the fans. The ones who said that Stephen King is a bad writer because he said that Stephanie Meyer didn't deserve all the praise she got. Though it was kind of fun to watch the King fanboys fight the Meyer fangirls. The fans who have even ATTACKED people who don't like Twilight (I've heard much much worse), those are the ones I don't like. It's good to like something, but just because someone else doesn't like it is no reason to hate them. It's certainly not a reason to attack them. If you like it, then fine, that's what the author, or creator, or whatever wants. They want people to like their work. But by attacking people that don't like it, you're creating a very bad image of the work in question. Fair enough, it's not just Twilight, it happens as well in the music scene. Never say to a "Belieber" that Justin Bieber sucks. I did this with my niece, she loves the thing. Boy she hates that.

The almost sad thing is that it is quite fun to do this. That's really the main reason people do it, they're looking for a laugh, and I'm guilty of doing this for myself, but in general try to remember this. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad, and just because someone doesn't like what you do, it doesn't make them something you should vilify. If they're the ones being assholes by hating on the thing you do, you make everything worse by rising to them, and acting the same with them. Don't tarnish the reputation of what you love.

PS: This post was inspired by Hazel.

40 comments:

  1. I have an urge to beg you to elope with me now. We seem to have similar tastes in books and music.

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  2. Life is too short to hang with haters.

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  3. @Lemons Don't Make Lemonade I'm game if you are but I will more than likely be arrested not too far down the line.

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  4. I read the first Twilight book. Halfway through I decided that the only purpose for finishing the thing was so that I could properly defend my now frequent bashing of it.

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  5. We're all guilty to these things one way or another, though, even if it's in the most innocent way possible.

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  6. A little bit of respect goes a long way. We can't expect people to like all the stuff we like.. as we can't expect them to hate all the things we hate. That would be... immature.

    Good day, Mark. :)

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  7. You're right, so right but it's still fun to do it.

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  8. Lol I'm glad I inspired you!

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  9. that is so sweet Mark ^_^

    yeah, yeah..I'm not much of a twilight fan either. the only reason I read the book was because it became "in" way back..Ü

    later then I realized that Lestat de Lioncourt is way a lot more better than Edward Cullen..^_^

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  10. It really SUCKS when internet is gone for so long.

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  11. Hey from all us bloggers, thanks man!!! Oh and no thanks for the Justine thing. I spent 5 minutes (ok more like 30 seconds) googling justine beaver before realizing my shortcomings in intelligence and reading.

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  12. @Mai Yang Lestat makes Edward look like a shambles of a vampire. The only reason I read them is for the same reason any guy should read them, or watch the movies. A girl.

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  13. @Copyboy I'll admit I'm surprised you didn't get a result lol, I really thought it was a common name. Justin Beaver is at least.

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  14. Your last sentence summed it up completely! Its like Mac fans too.

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  15. "Jebus fornicating Christ"
    LMAO that was original

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  16. @Neon I finally posted totally original content? Fuck yeah.

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  17. I can't live without Internet. D:

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  18. the opposite of love is not hate it's indifference

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  19. @Bersercules For me indifference is just not really caring. I'm indifferent about a lot of things. However if you're willing to go out of your way to say something sucks and insult everyone who likes it, it makes you come across as a bit more towards "hate" than "indifferent".

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  20. I don't think friday is so bad. I mean, it's not good. But she's young and made a cool thing.

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  21. @Michael Westside I think that should be "She's young and she can improve" lol. I will also accept that part of the blame is with her parents too. Though I have also read some really deep interpretations of it that blew my mind. I'd love to find them again. How it's really a song about losing her innocence and such.

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  22. You suck, this blog is a piece of shit. I hope your internet never goes back. Ohh wait wasn't this the bashing day? Oh well...let's pretend this didn't happen. I will slowly walk away and hope you don't notice it.

    PS: Bashing JB and Twilight is a waste of time. Perhaps saying a bad thing or two isn't that bad (i've done it myself), but actually going to youtube and start bashing there too, is retarded and a waste of time.

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  23. Everything what the Plumber says is correct. Although it's so much fun laughing with twilight

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  24. Unrelated to the post but I must ask how you got that cool highlight on your replies to comments in this section.

    Yeah, I touched on this subject a while back. People are naturally inclined to take their likes and dislikes personally. It really isn't *entirely* an issue of intelligence, human beings are psychologically hardwired to react this way. Armed with this knowledge, I've found it a bit easier to tolerate those flame wars.

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  25. @Henry I got the trick of Dirtycowgirl actually, but this (http://www.southernspeakers.net/2010/12/highlight-blogger-author-comments.html) is the link she gave me, it's all in there and it's a simple process of swapping one set of code for another. I do recommend using the old layout though because it's easier to work with for things like this, and don't forget to save a backup of your template. It isn't entirely an issue of intelligence but there are far more intelligent arguments than simply "It sucks and so do you". With Twilight for example, it's basically a story about a girl who doesn't mind that the guy she ohgodlawves is a crazy stalker who watches her sleep and hides everything from her. Is that really what a girl wants? So far I'm having little success.

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  26. @Hasidic Plumber You made me cwy :( That was one of the points I was trying to make, going through that much effort just doesn't seem worth it, and kinda on the same levels of retardation as the people whose on levels of intelligence you question.

    Ooooh look at me using big fancy words like "of".

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  27. Great post, I found it hilarious :P Twilight is actually not such a bad book but I think the movies just bang-on ruined it. I think it is true that Stephanie Meyer does not deserve the fame as much as many other authors, she was just very lucky.
    By the way, don't listen to haters. Everyone who openly expresses their opinions usually don't have everyone liking them. Cheer up and watch 'Vampires Suck' :)
    Rebecca Black can sing real well but is not the best song writer or works with good songwriters if you listen to My Moment... BUT she made everyones day when her song Friday was played on the loudspeaker at my school :)

    shenanigansofcaroline.blogspot.com

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  28. hi, nice blog, followin you!

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  29. @Caroline The movies are way way worse than the films. Way worse. I only watched the first one and I only watched all of it because I forced myself to finish what I started.

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  30. Yay for me. I get the nerd points and the story.

    And I also know of a video that is much much worse then anything Rebecca Black could do.
    I actually ran a challenge on my blog to find something worse then this...but no contest.
    Watch it of you want, but be warned your eyes and ears will likely bleed.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE2l6CPna4M

    And yay for you getting the comments box set up.

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  31. @Dirtycowgirl You do indeed get the points, no one else has mentioned getting them yet, so you get them all. I watched that video, and I've also seen a ten minute loop of Navi from Legend Of Zelda saying "Hey! Listen!" over and over again. I'm not sure which one I'd rather watch again.

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  32. I'm usually on the fence about things but when I'm feeling like a troll I like slowly picking at inane and little details that are clearly bad about something and cannot be defended.

    E.g. Justin Bieber is actually quite a dick to his set members. Edward Cullen is abusive and controlling (need to site precise examples, etc. etc.).

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  33. Then I saw her face, now I'm a Belieber

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  34. hating people because they dont like what i like....
    sounds a little bit like religion to me

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  35. @DWei I think I've mentioned a few, he's very very controlling and shows all the signs and more of a stalker, such as he watches her sleep and follows her everywhere, and he has controlled her emotionally. As for Bieber I've heard he's a bit of a dick in real life, and one of my sisters actually had a go at him on Twitter because my niece tweeted him and never got a reply when he says he always tweets back.

    @Generally Disgruntled Screw you, I can't get that out of my head now. Dammit.

    @Mekkor Now now let's avoid turning this into a religious debate lol. I almost turned it into one about how America will bomb you if you don't like democracy.

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  36. Wow, I knew some Twilight fans, well most of them, were pretty obsessed. But to attack someone simply because they disagree with their opinion? Madness. Not even Sparta, just madness.

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  37. I think that people who go out of their way to hate on something actually secretly like it but just don't want to admit it so they pretend to hate it!

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  38. @Danjor21 It's true in some cases. Not all though.

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