Tuesday, 2 August 2011

Take a seat right over there

This blog post is about the fantastic, sadly no longer running show, To Catch A Predator, or TCAP to save time and space.

For those of you who don't know, TCAP was what it possibly sounds like, it's a show where they try to get people who try to solicite sex from minors on the internet by teaming up with the fantastic people at Perverted Justice (http://www.perverted-justice.com/). I normally wouldn't post a link, but I really support these guys, and hope they don't mind the link. Go PJ!

These people are pretty messed up, and I would recommend you don't look at the PJ website, or watch the show if you can't bear the thought of what these people say to kids, I'm watching one right now, and they mentioned that the chat log was actually too graphic to say on TV, they aren't wrong, I've read them myself.

It's presented by the man with the most lovely voice this side of Johnny Depp, Chris Hanson. He's really an amazing guy, and I miss him. I sometimes wish I had NBC just so I could hear him whenever I wanted. Anyway, back to the actual show itself.

The show was cancelled after it had done 12 investigations, I haven't seen them all myself sadly, but the ones I have seen, are good, and it makes you happy to know that people like PJ are doing what they do, as they've kept going long after TCAP stopped, and still get people convicted this year. They've had over 500 in their entire run.

Despite the good it did, and how much it really did help people by bringing the problem to their attention, and striking fear into the hearts of creeps online, making them fear the Hanson, they had a lot of problems. The main one, and the one that caused their cancellation, was the case of a man who was caught on TCAP, and barricaded himself in his home, and subsequently killed himself. A member of his family sued NBC and blamed them for his death, and Hanson himself was in trouble about it. He was accused of telling the police to go to the mans house, because even though when they go to the sting hosue, they're arrested, he didn't go to the house, but his chats were considered so graphic and bad, that they wanted him arresteed anyway. After a standoff, like I said, he shot himself.

I really don't think Chris Hanson, or TCAP, or NBC was to blame at all, it really was totally his own fault that he killed himself, and he made the choice himself. His sister really had no right to sue them, and it's a real shame this show isn't still going.

Chris Hansen did say a few years back though on Facebook, that after doing some more things, they might go back and do some more, and I really wish they do, but with 2 years with no news, I don't really think it's coming, as much as I wish it would :(

I've been on these chatrooms myself, seen this stuff first hand, and I really wish I could get the cops involved. I'd love to work with PJ one day, they really do great work, and I wish they keep going for as long as they can.

Remember folks, keep your children safe, but also trust them, if you cling onto them too tightly, and secure them too tightly, they yearn for more freedom. It's a two way system. The more you try to protect them from something, the more they want to find out what's so bad about it. You have to let them make their own mistakes, so that they can learn for themselves, just be there for them, they do, that's what they want more than anything :)

Go Team To Catch A Predator, led by the might Hansonator!

25 comments:

  1. I'm all for the removal of sexual predators, but Perverted Justice operates on some pretty shaky legal grounds. The first is entrapment, which is a huge deal. The solicitation of a felony is in and of itself a felony in many places of the United States. If a predator can prove he or she was the victim of entrapment, not only is their case dismissed, but the involving law enforcement then are tried for a felony. And, it throws the shadow of doubt over every sting operation that was done by the possible offending party. But that's just from a legality issue. My issue is harassment. Sex offenders do not benefit from harassment, and it can cause all sorts of problems. The first is that not everything is as black and white as it seems. That's more of a personal idea about it. You can easily demonize a person, and that makes redemption almost impossible, especially if that person is rehabilitated or is guilty of a single mistake. I know what it feels like being on the end of the legal system when you've seen the error of your ways. It's worse with a sex offender. So you've got this guy, who's lonely. And he's terrified, but he takes a risk just to have a connection with a human being, and suddenly, there's Chris Fucking Hansen. His life is over. If he would have actually had sex with an underage girl, it's a different matter entirely. But charging him the same as a sex offender, despite only intent, which is never a guarantee of action. But, that's personal opinion. There is a bigger, more concrete issue, however. A growing trend in the united states is homelessness amongst registered sex offenders, due to both harassment and strict laws defining where individuals on the sex offender registry must live. This presents a growing problem of sex offenders falling off the map, and therefore being a greater threat to those around them if they are dangerous. In my opinion, Perverted Justice is vigilantism. When monitored by law enforcement, sure, I can get behind it because law enforcement can ensure that they operate within the legal definitions. But when they just go to town, post this person's information everywhere? That's a pretty gross misuse of information. Sorry this rambled on, it's just some personal views I have of this kind of thing.

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  2. Heard about the guy that killed himself from this show, crazy stuff. I think he was a high profile lawyer or judge or something so his career would have been completely ended after it aired. Would like to see more of this show, kinda funny that Hanson got caught in a sting of him cheating on his wife though.

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  3. whoa, i've never heard of this show, but you guys are talking so much sick stuff! i'll certainly try to watch it online!

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  4. i was misled by your title... i expected more joints x)

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  5. I think "To Catch A Predator" is a reprehensible piece of tabloid trash journalism. Generally Disgruntled said it best for me.

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  6. My favorite part is when the cop dressed like a bush tackles the guy. Although i'm not an advocate for public shaming, that's pretty intense, i have to admit.

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  7. I loved the South Park episode that this spawned, with all the people walking in and blowing their heads off with guns once they saw Hansen. Genius.

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  8. I met Chris Hanson when I was a kid. He was kind of a jerk.

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  9. someone killed himself? i didn't knew that

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  10. excellent wisdom in that last paragraph

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  11. totally agree that it was that sick fucks fault that he killed himself- obviously couldnt bring himself to deal with the fact that he was a pedo. anyways, i heard that hansen got caught up in a big divorce case recently too, sucks to be him.

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  12. It isn't the type of "show" that you can put in TV, not always "everything's fine".

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  13. Best show ever!! They did somethng useful for society.

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  14. The show was a sensation, and did some good. If it saved even just one kid from a predator, then I think it was worth it.

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  15. How about the parents just teach their kids not to give out sensitive information because they can be raped and killed.

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  16. I remember watching TCAP. I loved when suddenly Chris Hansen came in and those people looked terrified as fuck. I also loved the following youtube videos of ventrilo harassment made with soundboards filled with Chris Hansen saying things like "That's terribly sexy" :D

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  17. Hansen spawned some epic memes, but what they did definitely helped. I'd like to see more done about child predators as I know it is still a problem, but that also starts at educating the children

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  18. my quesiton is, who would want to tune into a show about child predators? That soudns horrible tbh. But yeah I agree, parents need to find the medium between authoritarian parenting v. permissive parenting.

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  19. I don't think that something as serious as paedophilia be made into a piece of entertainment in the form of a television show

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  20. I don't even know what to say.
    This show is the worst demagogic immoral piece of shit, that I've ever had the misfortune of seeing.
    Kinda viz. Generally Disgruntled

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  21. I'm all for the removal of sexual predators, but Perverted Justice operates on some pretty shaky legal grounds. The first is entrapment, which is a huge deal. The solicitation of a felony is in and of itself a felony in many places of the United States. If a predator can prove he or she was the victim of entrapment, not only is their case dismissed, but the involving law enforcement then are tried for a felony. And, it throws the shadow of doubt over every sting operation that was done by the possible offending party. But that's just from a legality issue. My issue is harassment. Sex offenders do not benefit from harassment, and it can cause all sorts of problems. The first is that not everything is as black and white as it seems. That's more of a personal idea about it. You can easily demonize a person, and that makes redemption almost impossible, especially if that person is rehabilitated or is guilty of a single mistake. I know what it feels like being on the end of the legal system when you've seen the error of your ways. It's worse with a sex offender. So you've got this guy, who's lonely. And he's terrified, but he takes a risk just to have a connection with a human being, and suddenly, there's Chris Fucking Hansen. His life is over. If he would have actually had sex with an underage girl, it's a different matter entirely. But charging him the same as a sex offender, despite only intent, which is never a guarantee of action. But, that's personal opinion. There is a bigger, more concrete issue, however. A growing trend in the united states is homelessness amongst registered sex offenders, due to both harassment and strict laws defining where individuals on the sex offender registry must live. This presents a growing problem of sex offenders falling off the map, and therefore being a greater threat to those around them if they are dangerous. In my opinion, Perverted Justice is vigilantism. When monitored by law enforcement, sure, I can get behind it because law enforcement can ensure that they operate within the legal definitions. But when they just go to town, post this person's information everywhere? That's a pretty gross misuse of information. Sorry this rambled on, it's just some personal views I have of this kind of thing.

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